There is a big problem with the term 'antisemitism', which is that the term is so over-user that it has become meaningless. When someone who says "Christ is King" and someone who says "The Jews should be tossed into ovens" are both called antisemites, what exactly is the significance of the word?
The term needs a clear definition. E Michael Jones has focused on this issue for decades and argues the legitimate definition of anti-semitism is tied to biological determinism. Bad DNA. A true anti-semite believes Jewish DNA makes people bad. Christians can't be anti-semitic when their religion is based upon people with Jewish DNA.
The weaponized version of anti-semitism seeks to apply the term to any criticism of behavior, for example of Jewish groups like the ADL, AIPAC, and the state of Israel. Or defines anti-semitism as anything a person like Jonathan Greenblatt doesn't like. As long as the definition is vague, it will be wielded as a weapon to shut down dissent.
We already have the term 'bigotry'. Bigotry aside, it is not wrong to have animosity towards public enemies--that is, enemies of you and yours--whether they be defined racially, religiously, culturally, or all three.
Different groups have inherently differently ordered interests. Being against the jewish order of interests is anti-semitic, and there are many groups which suffer having jewish interests forced above their own.
on the topic of those vile jew-hatred accounts on X, etc, how many of those do we think are bots deployed to disgust and repel normies away from the genuine discussion being held about israeli influence in the US government, ww2, etc? i’ve clicked on quite a few of them and they have like 2 followers and no posts. torba said he blocked indian and israeli IP’s from gab and that kind of shit dropped off precipitously.
I've never thought of it as a tool to repel ppl away from discussion, and interesting idea, but I have on many occasions contemplated that the majority of "jew hate" accounts are ran by Isreal.
In order to continually excuse your abhorrent actions as a necessity because you are a victim you must have a vile perpetrator.
I grew up in poor areas of southern Ca. and Texas. I have known a good number of ppl who have gone to prison and came out as a member of AB/AC. And I have NEVER heard a single one of them say anything remotely close to what these accounts spit out. Ever.
It's more plausible than a bunch of ghost redneck racists running around secretly planning to murder all Jews with tier 1 level covert abilities.
Love your work Darryl but I’ll have to disagree with you on this one slightly.
I completely understand the notion of not giving into blind hatred. The results of that we see in the treatment of Palestinians in Israel today. It’s how historical disasters, ethnic cleansing, and pogroms come to fruition.
But in regard to the Zionist takeover of America I’m afraid that you’re not nearly as angry as you should be.
Billions of dollars have been diverted out of the United States and into Israel, more than a million innocent Muslims have been murdered and many millions more displaced, tens of thousands of American soldiers have died and been maimed, and Americans have been deceived and lied to in order to facilitate all of this in the most devious ways.
The situation in Palestine has made it abundantly clear that deception, lies, and misdirection are the primary means of achieving these goals and I’m afraid that staging something like 9/11 in order to achieve these goals is not at all too far fetched for radical Zionists, or any other zealot for that matter.
So yes, we are well advised to not give into blind hatred. It would be a terrible mistake to lump together all Jewish people. But let’s be clear: America has been deeply compromised by Zionists in order to do terrible things around the world that no conscionable American would ever agree to.
So I would say: if you don’t have any strong feelings about this one, you’re doing it wrong. No need to give into blind hatred but have moral clarity about what is happening
Yes, and we should have equal anger for all of the American politicians, newspaper editors and journalists, academics, government officials, industry heads, etc., who have so willingly been blackmailed or extorted or bullied into supporting these people, or cowed into silence.
And all the American Christian Zionists who are a huge driving force, and a formidable political bloc here.
@kluster, "you’re not nearly as angry as you should be." More anger is not what is needed. There is plenty of it to go around. Clear heads, and spoken truth is what's needed. Strength of character to resist ZOG is what is needed.
Well said. Right no more than any culture in world history we have a constant flow of information overwhelming us at every turn. Rather it be disinformation, genuine information, or biased confirmation it’s getting hard to even tell what’s real now a days.
Man I kinda needed to read this, it is like a fever that slowly comes on. I personally only know one Jewish guy and I really like him, but since I got on Substack I am seeing them behind every thing I look at.
This isn't a matter which can be seen clearly when bringing individuals into focus. The man who thinks himself an individual has no freedom. The man who thinks of others as individuals has been stripped of all but the most shallow of empathy.
Your series on the American Labor Movement is in my humble opinion the most important thing Americans need to hear right now. Thank you for all your work.
As someone who came up in the Portland Oregon mid-late 90’s punk scene, I’ve spent a fair bit of time around real neo-Nazis (skin shows were the best).I realized quickly that even if they were 100% correct, I’d rather die than live a life consumed by hatred. I converted to Christianity a decade later, and I thank God that those bastards never got their hooks into me when I was disaffected, stoned, and generally stupid.
So good. To your point about Grandma being shocked by things we take as normal…I shared your Duncan Trussel podcast with my Mom and Dad because I thought it was awesome. We are all Christians and I could have listened to you guys go for another 2 hours. My Dad starts it and says “how can you listen to this?! Every other word is “f*ck” (mostly from DT). I just laugh it off, then I read this Substack post and the Grandma bit seemed so relevant. My parents probably won’t listen. I tried.
Good message you have here though. X is a hot bed for getting stirred up and it’s hard to step back and let go of the feelings of hate. I’ve gone down the rabbit hole and need to throttle back. I miss the days of just being happily ignorant to all of it. The corruption is so intriguing, but like you guys discussed in the podcast, I’m only 1 dude and it’s not on me to change the world (an excellent point). I’m going to try and treat everyone I meet with a little more dignity and respect than I did yesterday. I want to grow and be a good Christian. Thank you for being a good leader and example, DC. Cheers.
Darryl - I’m so glad you almost never swear. It’s so much classier and more respectful when people don’t resort to that. It’s the province of the crass and inarticulate. Thank you. 💗
Ok that's nice and all, but how does that solve any problems whatsoever? We have tried to be nice. We have tried all the forms of goodness in the world. Yet we are the bad ones when we don't wish to tolerate what makes us who we are being undermined; we are told we are full of "hatred" for trying to undo those things which are driving our people to degrade themselves in the worst of ways.
And you wish to group us reasonable yet not cowed people in with those who have understandably decided to stop being polite after seeing every go-around at every level be repeated as if on loop? Pardon me if it is not reasonable to conclude all of this, including any niceness we are told to have towards this situation, is all obfuscation to cover up a fight for sovereignty between groups with irreconcilable differences. How could it not be another excuse to make the same cowardly mistakes as have been made before?
This doesn't mention the phenomenon where these groups themselves amplify or create the worst and most absurd kinds of anti-semitism because they know it discredits the well-formed cases which are plenty damning by themselves. One of Hitler's first recorded essays is a call for a more rational anti-semitism. This same thing was an issue back then. There's a lot of good in what you're saying, and the answer to the contradictions in it has already been given. It is possible to be hard on the people who are wronging us without allowing the despair from the crime having happened to ruin you entirely. The thief on the cross who was forgiven still died for his crime.
In most cases, what drives an anti-Semite mad isn't hatred, it's the despondency they see in the world towards the obvious. You yourself bring up Epstein: you say you see these things as wrong, yet you keep yourself from accepting just what kind of action is necessary should anyone be serious about seeing justice which would work to prevent these things from continuing to happen with the tacit consent of our state. You hope there to be some fantastical solution that will bring no pain to anyone. I'm sorry, but that is how it looks to someone who has broken themselves from the liberal stupor.
I do on some level understand what you are trying to do here and appreciate it, whether it is clouded by some delusion that this isn't a conflict between irreconcilable entities whether we want it to be one or not. I view any framing of this as "hate" as an attempt to paint the reality of the situation itself as morally wrong, disarming before a merciless enemy any who accept that frame.
I think all of us of about 40ish years old spent far too much time in internet forums of all sorts that had an OT section that was the internet equivalent of the wrong side of the tracks, or really the wrong side of the tracks in a bad 3rd world country, to the point that nothing, and I do mean nothing in the depravity of man shocks us anymore. By the age of 20 we'd probably all seen stuff that in decades past you'd have to go hang out in a back room of a shady Tijuana bar or fight in a war to see, depending on the particular type of shocking degeneracy you're talking about.
Yeah dude, the original internet treated intellectual debate like a pub after midnight, not like how it is now where everyone pretends they are your thesis adviser.
I’ll always support your work. The best out there. And you inspire me to read more. I wasn’t much of a reader until I heard you on jockos podcast 5 years ago now. Gave your backstory and it motivated me to become a reader. Thanks for all your work!
Who paid for all of Douglas Murray‘s expensive trips to North Korea, the front line of the Ukraine war, Israel, Ramallah, Gaza, Afghanistan, and Iraq ?
And who arranged that access? Some of these aren’t places that normal journalists or authors can get access to.
Murray would piss his pants if he was actually on any frontline. I have two young brothers in my family that were adopted prior to 2022. They came from an orphanage in the Donbass and were frequently shelled by their own countrymen. They spoke only Russian when they arrived, but speak English well now. They have stories that would make Murray piss his pants
Those trips are suspicious. Notice how Zelensky really wants Trump to go to Ukraine. It's almost like something happens over there that influences their opinion…
DO NOT LOOK UP “GOATSE”
Goatse is art. You really need to look at it for a while to truly appreciate it's beauty.
Of course I immediately sent a text to a friend — just that single word. Seemed like an obligation.
Tub girl.
There is a big problem with the term 'antisemitism', which is that the term is so over-user that it has become meaningless. When someone who says "Christ is King" and someone who says "The Jews should be tossed into ovens" are both called antisemites, what exactly is the significance of the word?
The term needs a clear definition. E Michael Jones has focused on this issue for decades and argues the legitimate definition of anti-semitism is tied to biological determinism. Bad DNA. A true anti-semite believes Jewish DNA makes people bad. Christians can't be anti-semitic when their religion is based upon people with Jewish DNA.
The weaponized version of anti-semitism seeks to apply the term to any criticism of behavior, for example of Jewish groups like the ADL, AIPAC, and the state of Israel. Or defines anti-semitism as anything a person like Jonathan Greenblatt doesn't like. As long as the definition is vague, it will be wielded as a weapon to shut down dissent.
Nothing. Just like "racist" lost its meaning as well. And I am glad for it. One less weapon for the totalitarian left to use against the average Joe.
We already have the term 'bigotry'. Bigotry aside, it is not wrong to have animosity towards public enemies--that is, enemies of you and yours--whether they be defined racially, religiously, culturally, or all three.
Different groups have inherently differently ordered interests. Being against the jewish order of interests is anti-semitic, and there are many groups which suffer having jewish interests forced above their own.
on the topic of those vile jew-hatred accounts on X, etc, how many of those do we think are bots deployed to disgust and repel normies away from the genuine discussion being held about israeli influence in the US government, ww2, etc? i’ve clicked on quite a few of them and they have like 2 followers and no posts. torba said he blocked indian and israeli IP’s from gab and that kind of shit dropped off precipitously.
Interesting. People are mimetic creatures, though, and we’ll take our cues from bots as easily as humans
Ill give you this, a lot of them are sub continental
yikes - an even darker implementation or some sick blowback.
yep. https://x.com/no_one_quits/status/1912304986127557057?s=46&t=AuS7wuW4A7qf0LyfTNHD-A
I've never thought of it as a tool to repel ppl away from discussion, and interesting idea, but I have on many occasions contemplated that the majority of "jew hate" accounts are ran by Isreal.
In order to continually excuse your abhorrent actions as a necessity because you are a victim you must have a vile perpetrator.
I grew up in poor areas of southern Ca. and Texas. I have known a good number of ppl who have gone to prison and came out as a member of AB/AC. And I have NEVER heard a single one of them say anything remotely close to what these accounts spit out. Ever.
It's more plausible than a bunch of ghost redneck racists running around secretly planning to murder all Jews with tier 1 level covert abilities.
Love your work Darryl but I’ll have to disagree with you on this one slightly.
I completely understand the notion of not giving into blind hatred. The results of that we see in the treatment of Palestinians in Israel today. It’s how historical disasters, ethnic cleansing, and pogroms come to fruition.
But in regard to the Zionist takeover of America I’m afraid that you’re not nearly as angry as you should be.
Billions of dollars have been diverted out of the United States and into Israel, more than a million innocent Muslims have been murdered and many millions more displaced, tens of thousands of American soldiers have died and been maimed, and Americans have been deceived and lied to in order to facilitate all of this in the most devious ways.
The situation in Palestine has made it abundantly clear that deception, lies, and misdirection are the primary means of achieving these goals and I’m afraid that staging something like 9/11 in order to achieve these goals is not at all too far fetched for radical Zionists, or any other zealot for that matter.
So yes, we are well advised to not give into blind hatred. It would be a terrible mistake to lump together all Jewish people. But let’s be clear: America has been deeply compromised by Zionists in order to do terrible things around the world that no conscionable American would ever agree to.
So I would say: if you don’t have any strong feelings about this one, you’re doing it wrong. No need to give into blind hatred but have moral clarity about what is happening
We don’t really disagree. Don’t give in to blind hatred was the main point, everything else was just there to make it an essay instead of a tweet.
Yes, and we should have equal anger for all of the American politicians, newspaper editors and journalists, academics, government officials, industry heads, etc., who have so willingly been blackmailed or extorted or bullied into supporting these people, or cowed into silence.
And all the American Christian Zionists who are a huge driving force, and a formidable political bloc here.
A Good Friday message:
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/what-would-jesus-do/
My thoughts exactly
@kluster, "you’re not nearly as angry as you should be." More anger is not what is needed. There is plenty of it to go around. Clear heads, and spoken truth is what's needed. Strength of character to resist ZOG is what is needed.
Lots of wisdom in these words sir. Thanks.
Darryl I just want the revisionist, “Hitler was misunderstood” stuff.
Oh, it's coming.
I love you
My general rule of thumb is that there is a difference between Noticing and Obsessing.
Good rule
Well said. Right no more than any culture in world history we have a constant flow of information overwhelming us at every turn. Rather it be disinformation, genuine information, or biased confirmation it’s getting hard to even tell what’s real now a days.
Man I kinda needed to read this, it is like a fever that slowly comes on. I personally only know one Jewish guy and I really like him, but since I got on Substack I am seeing them behind every thing I look at.
This isn't a matter which can be seen clearly when bringing individuals into focus. The man who thinks himself an individual has no freedom. The man who thinks of others as individuals has been stripped of all but the most shallow of empathy.
Your series on the American Labor Movement is in my humble opinion the most important thing Americans need to hear right now. Thank you for all your work.
As happy I am that the WW2 series is coming out I was really looking forward to the Haymarket and American Communist Party vs The Mob installments
Are these future episodes?
Can you send me that link, please?
As someone who came up in the Portland Oregon mid-late 90’s punk scene, I’ve spent a fair bit of time around real neo-Nazis (skin shows were the best).I realized quickly that even if they were 100% correct, I’d rather die than live a life consumed by hatred. I converted to Christianity a decade later, and I thank God that those bastards never got their hooks into me when I was disaffected, stoned, and generally stupid.
So good. To your point about Grandma being shocked by things we take as normal…I shared your Duncan Trussel podcast with my Mom and Dad because I thought it was awesome. We are all Christians and I could have listened to you guys go for another 2 hours. My Dad starts it and says “how can you listen to this?! Every other word is “f*ck” (mostly from DT). I just laugh it off, then I read this Substack post and the Grandma bit seemed so relevant. My parents probably won’t listen. I tried.
Good message you have here though. X is a hot bed for getting stirred up and it’s hard to step back and let go of the feelings of hate. I’ve gone down the rabbit hole and need to throttle back. I miss the days of just being happily ignorant to all of it. The corruption is so intriguing, but like you guys discussed in the podcast, I’m only 1 dude and it’s not on me to change the world (an excellent point). I’m going to try and treat everyone I meet with a little more dignity and respect than I did yesterday. I want to grow and be a good Christian. Thank you for being a good leader and example, DC. Cheers.
Darryl - I’m so glad you almost never swear. It’s so much classier and more respectful when people don’t resort to that. It’s the province of the crass and inarticulate. Thank you. 💗
I think Darryl swears with the correct emphasis in the correct amount, if there is such a thing.
Ok that's nice and all, but how does that solve any problems whatsoever? We have tried to be nice. We have tried all the forms of goodness in the world. Yet we are the bad ones when we don't wish to tolerate what makes us who we are being undermined; we are told we are full of "hatred" for trying to undo those things which are driving our people to degrade themselves in the worst of ways.
And you wish to group us reasonable yet not cowed people in with those who have understandably decided to stop being polite after seeing every go-around at every level be repeated as if on loop? Pardon me if it is not reasonable to conclude all of this, including any niceness we are told to have towards this situation, is all obfuscation to cover up a fight for sovereignty between groups with irreconcilable differences. How could it not be another excuse to make the same cowardly mistakes as have been made before?
This doesn't mention the phenomenon where these groups themselves amplify or create the worst and most absurd kinds of anti-semitism because they know it discredits the well-formed cases which are plenty damning by themselves. One of Hitler's first recorded essays is a call for a more rational anti-semitism. This same thing was an issue back then. There's a lot of good in what you're saying, and the answer to the contradictions in it has already been given. It is possible to be hard on the people who are wronging us without allowing the despair from the crime having happened to ruin you entirely. The thief on the cross who was forgiven still died for his crime.
In most cases, what drives an anti-Semite mad isn't hatred, it's the despondency they see in the world towards the obvious. You yourself bring up Epstein: you say you see these things as wrong, yet you keep yourself from accepting just what kind of action is necessary should anyone be serious about seeing justice which would work to prevent these things from continuing to happen with the tacit consent of our state. You hope there to be some fantastical solution that will bring no pain to anyone. I'm sorry, but that is how it looks to someone who has broken themselves from the liberal stupor.
Please, tell me I'm wrong.
I do on some level understand what you are trying to do here and appreciate it, whether it is clouded by some delusion that this isn't a conflict between irreconcilable entities whether we want it to be one or not. I view any framing of this as "hate" as an attempt to paint the reality of the situation itself as morally wrong, disarming before a merciless enemy any who accept that frame.
Agree with many of your points, especially Epstein, but this could be construed as fedbaiting.
I think all of us of about 40ish years old spent far too much time in internet forums of all sorts that had an OT section that was the internet equivalent of the wrong side of the tracks, or really the wrong side of the tracks in a bad 3rd world country, to the point that nothing, and I do mean nothing in the depravity of man shocks us anymore. By the age of 20 we'd probably all seen stuff that in decades past you'd have to go hang out in a back room of a shady Tijuana bar or fight in a war to see, depending on the particular type of shocking degeneracy you're talking about.
Damn dude. That's an excellent point.
Yeah dude, the original internet treated intellectual debate like a pub after midnight, not like how it is now where everyone pretends they are your thesis adviser.
The one that made me stop looking at that kind of shit was 3Guys1Hammer. Lost my stomach for shock videos after that.
I’ll always support your work. The best out there. And you inspire me to read more. I wasn’t much of a reader until I heard you on jockos podcast 5 years ago now. Gave your backstory and it motivated me to become a reader. Thanks for all your work!
Man those old OG boards were a special place.
Imagine me finding out back then that my daughter was in some of those chat rooms.
There were no girls on the internet.
It was a Chat Room that was "iffy" for a 9th grade girl.
The Rotten boards were right-girls ruined the internet.
I don't follow. Are you being sarcastic?
Who's going to tell Douglas Murray and James Lindsay that you didn't give them the answer here they thought (and to be honest) hoped you would give?
I couldn't care less what they think.
But they both just lost the millions they could have made denouncing you if you had just been the bigot they wanted you to be...
Don't forget Nial Ferguson. Spare you the trouble of listening to him, he's Murray without the charm.
Who paid for all of Douglas Murray‘s expensive trips to North Korea, the front line of the Ukraine war, Israel, Ramallah, Gaza, Afghanistan, and Iraq ?
And who arranged that access? Some of these aren’t places that normal journalists or authors can get access to.
Murray would piss his pants if he was actually on any frontline. I have two young brothers in my family that were adopted prior to 2022. They came from an orphanage in the Donbass and were frequently shelled by their own countrymen. They spoke only Russian when they arrived, but speak English well now. They have stories that would make Murray piss his pants
Those trips are suspicious. Notice how Zelensky really wants Trump to go to Ukraine. It's almost like something happens over there that influences their opinion…
Vasili! You would have been right at home on those old boards with that handle! Agree about Ferguson.
Always appreciate when someone gets the reference.