I’d just like to say , for me this is a perfect example of intelligence / intelligent thinking , my whole thing with all I subscribe to is relating & relaying so that as many people as possible can understand & get to grips with what is being said , this conversation does just that , once again I am impressed , for me this is another level , not only the subject matter & content but the whole way in which it is delivered , F ing Brilliant, shame it stopped halfway through , I’ll look at subscribing but I need to take stock of all my subscriptions , keep on keeping on Darryl ,
This was really excellent Darryl. My husband is from Eastern Gernmany, but his mother was born in Königsberg, now Kaliningrad, and they were expelled after WW2. Absolutely ethnic cleansing, no ifs no buts. Even crazier is that my husband's granmother's maiden name was Rosenberg ie. she was Jewish. And even as the Red army comes in and rescue the Jews - German Jews were still thrown out of their homes, made to walk from Königsberg, through Polan, to Leipzig. And I know in Denmark, if anyone helped German refugees after the war (and there were many in Denmark), they ran the risk of being prosecuted as collaborators, and in the past couple of years it has come out that yes, many many German children died, from hunger or lack of medical care in Danish refugee camps. Imagine how conditions were on this walk through Poland? My mother in law told stories about how it was customary for the Russian soldiers to rape women in the refugee camp she arrived in when they arrived in Germany - and she and her sisters only excaped that bc. their dad was alive (bc. he was so old he had retired from the army where he was an officer before the war).
Israel is mass murdering those people for the crime of being born indigenous to that land and not being jews.
It's like something out of a midevil crusade story during the dark ages being carried out right in front of the world and nobody who can stop it is willing to make them stop
Hey Darryl, I’ve been reading about how the death tolls at some Nazi camps like Auschwitz and Treblinka were significantly revised down over the decades. For example, Auschwitz from 4 million to around 1.1 million and Treblinka from 3 million to around 870,000. I understand these early numbers came from Soviet estimates right after the war, which we now know were grossly inflated. Given that, I’m curious why the overall figure of 6 million Jewish deaths has never really changed. Is it because it became symbolic over time, or is there another reason historians still stand by it? I want to clarify by saying I’m absolutely not denying that Jews were persecuted and killed during the Holocaust, or that terrible atrocities didn’t happen, they clearly did, and the suffering was very real.
I understand your argument, but you must also agree that it’s very rare that 100% of population losses from “census data” don’t always mean that everyone has died. Stalin also initially claimed that 20 million soviets had died from the war, but in reality it was closer to 13-15 million. He simply based his estimate on population census, not realizing that millions of those “deaths” were simply due to missing persons, relocation, unregistered displacement etc. There’s many more cases in history like this where the census data showed way more losses than actual confirmed deaths, such as the Pakistan-India partition, Greek-Ottoman wars and even Germany after WWII. Also, the 6 million number was initially based on rough estimates of total Jewish population of Europe in danger from the war, and the claim of “6 million” started spreading as early as 1944 from Jewish organizations like the World Jewish Congress. It was mentioned several times during the Nuremberg Trials of 1946. It all just seems so finicky to me.
Jewish population figures in czarist Russia were notoriously unreliable, by design on the part of the rabbinate. It was a way to avoid military conscription. Given how wars went for Russia in the early 20th century, can you blame them? 6 million is the high end of the estimate, I've heard logical arguments for the low end being 4.5 million.
You’re right that the death tolls at certain camps (like the Soviet-era estimate of 4 million at Auschwitz) were revised down as more accurate records became available. But the core of your question can be answered by noting that the widely accepted figure of roughly 6 million Jewish deaths wasn’t based solely on those early camp-specific numbers.
Instead, it comes from a much broader range of evidence. Namely, demographic studies comparing pre and post-war Jewish populations, Nazi documentation (like train records/ Einsatzgruppen reports), national censuses, and survivor testimony.
So even as the numbers at individual sites were corrected, the overall estimate held steady because it was never just about the camps. Mass shootings, ghettos, starvation, forced labor, and other systematic methods of murder across occupied Europe also accounted for millions of deaths. In fact, the revised figures have strengthened the 6 million estimate by making the data more precise and better supported.
While “six million” has certainly become symbolic in public memory, historians still stand by it because it’s historically sound :)
It's always a good idea to re-listen to God's Socialist. For my money it's his best main series. Just finished Raven and was considering doing a compare/contrast. If anything Cooper's series is a white pill compared to that absolute downer. The sheer pointlessness of it all is oppressive.
A little bait and switch with the paywall. Ah I see Darryl isn’t only limited to congenital Jewish traits. Big bro Esau as a matter of fact was the one we needed to sew up our pockets against.
I read a lot of what the early Bolsheviks were saying, and one of the few things that give me hope in all that rubbish is when they complain about the inertia of the lumpenproletariat. Those grandpas were content to harbor opinions about certain people, but the difference between them and revolutionaries is no one seriously contends they were going to do anything about it. This is a good thing. The Freedmen realized that thought isn't illegal, but when you start acting on those thoughts, it gives the state an excuse to regulate thought. Sure this is frustrating when you have a system that needs changing, but the stability is precious. Would it be worth it to completely expose the Epstein network if the end result is America becoming a failed state a few decades from now? I say yes now, but I wonder if the people that have to live in that third world state would agree.
I can’t access any of it. It’s been 6 months since the first installment of WWII and The Peculiar Institution is not finished either. I am growing impatient. Now that the Z-Man is gone, there are very few listenable realists out there so please, can we have something?
IRRC he’s pretty knowledgeable on this and has a good revisionist take, but I haven’t heard him in years. I expect this to be a pretty in depth/high level convo on this.
Holy shit I'm retarded. I still didn't understand and googled it. I thought you were saying "If my memory serves me correctly, he meant IIRC." And I didn't want to then ask "Okay, what's IIRC?" You corrected it and told me what it meant, I'm just dense. Also, you wouldn't have had to "remember correctly" that was posted today. Jeez! Anyways, thank you.
i'm about to start Martyr Made Substack 2024 episodes. Should I work around the Peculiar Institution and then do it in one fell swoop? Straight through? Peculiar institution first?
The rest not being behind your paywall as well as his seems like a party foul.
Agree w/BBP here; pretty sure there’s a way to unlock this for your subs
It’s his show, but I’ll ask him
I’d just like to say , for me this is a perfect example of intelligence / intelligent thinking , my whole thing with all I subscribe to is relating & relaying so that as many people as possible can understand & get to grips with what is being said , this conversation does just that , once again I am impressed , for me this is another level , not only the subject matter & content but the whole way in which it is delivered , F ing Brilliant, shame it stopped halfway through , I’ll look at subscribing but I need to take stock of all my subscriptions , keep on keeping on Darryl ,
Best Regards
from the city formerly known as London 😊🫡🤝👌👍
This was really excellent Darryl. My husband is from Eastern Gernmany, but his mother was born in Königsberg, now Kaliningrad, and they were expelled after WW2. Absolutely ethnic cleansing, no ifs no buts. Even crazier is that my husband's granmother's maiden name was Rosenberg ie. she was Jewish. And even as the Red army comes in and rescue the Jews - German Jews were still thrown out of their homes, made to walk from Königsberg, through Polan, to Leipzig. And I know in Denmark, if anyone helped German refugees after the war (and there were many in Denmark), they ran the risk of being prosecuted as collaborators, and in the past couple of years it has come out that yes, many many German children died, from hunger or lack of medical care in Danish refugee camps. Imagine how conditions were on this walk through Poland? My mother in law told stories about how it was customary for the Russian soldiers to rape women in the refugee camp she arrived in when they arrived in Germany - and she and her sisters only excaped that bc. their dad was alive (bc. he was so old he had retired from the army where he was an officer before the war).
Imagine what life is like inside Gaza under Israeli apartheid rule today
I cannot imagine honestly - I don't think any of us are capable of imagining it
I agree, I just can't imagine it myself
Israel is mass murdering those people for the crime of being born indigenous to that land and not being jews.
It's like something out of a midevil crusade story during the dark ages being carried out right in front of the world and nobody who can stop it is willing to make them stop
I feel so powerless on a daily basis about this. I want to scream it from the tallest mountain, but it seems like most people would rather ignore it.
It’s not the episode we want, but it’ll do for now. Take your time and do it right.
Is it okay to ask Darryl to stop talking to people until it's done? At this point?
Hey Darryl, I’ve been reading about how the death tolls at some Nazi camps like Auschwitz and Treblinka were significantly revised down over the decades. For example, Auschwitz from 4 million to around 1.1 million and Treblinka from 3 million to around 870,000. I understand these early numbers came from Soviet estimates right after the war, which we now know were grossly inflated. Given that, I’m curious why the overall figure of 6 million Jewish deaths has never really changed. Is it because it became symbolic over time, or is there another reason historians still stand by it? I want to clarify by saying I’m absolutely not denying that Jews were persecuted and killed during the Holocaust, or that terrible atrocities didn’t happen, they clearly did, and the suffering was very real.
I understand your argument, but you must also agree that it’s very rare that 100% of population losses from “census data” don’t always mean that everyone has died. Stalin also initially claimed that 20 million soviets had died from the war, but in reality it was closer to 13-15 million. He simply based his estimate on population census, not realizing that millions of those “deaths” were simply due to missing persons, relocation, unregistered displacement etc. There’s many more cases in history like this where the census data showed way more losses than actual confirmed deaths, such as the Pakistan-India partition, Greek-Ottoman wars and even Germany after WWII. Also, the 6 million number was initially based on rough estimates of total Jewish population of Europe in danger from the war, and the claim of “6 million” started spreading as early as 1944 from Jewish organizations like the World Jewish Congress. It was mentioned several times during the Nuremberg Trials of 1946. It all just seems so finicky to me.
Jewish population figures in czarist Russia were notoriously unreliable, by design on the part of the rabbinate. It was a way to avoid military conscription. Given how wars went for Russia in the early 20th century, can you blame them? 6 million is the high end of the estimate, I've heard logical arguments for the low end being 4.5 million.
You’re right that the death tolls at certain camps (like the Soviet-era estimate of 4 million at Auschwitz) were revised down as more accurate records became available. But the core of your question can be answered by noting that the widely accepted figure of roughly 6 million Jewish deaths wasn’t based solely on those early camp-specific numbers.
Instead, it comes from a much broader range of evidence. Namely, demographic studies comparing pre and post-war Jewish populations, Nazi documentation (like train records/ Einsatzgruppen reports), national censuses, and survivor testimony.
So even as the numbers at individual sites were corrected, the overall estimate held steady because it was never just about the camps. Mass shootings, ghettos, starvation, forced labor, and other systematic methods of murder across occupied Europe also accounted for millions of deaths. In fact, the revised figures have strengthened the 6 million estimate by making the data more precise and better supported.
While “six million” has certainly become symbolic in public memory, historians still stand by it because it’s historically sound :)
Thank you DC! Good way to ease into my long weekend down here in Pensacola! Thinking about cueing up Gods Socialist just for old times sake!
It's always a good idea to re-listen to God's Socialist. For my money it's his best main series. Just finished Raven and was considering doing a compare/contrast. If anything Cooper's series is a white pill compared to that absolute downer. The sheer pointlessness of it all is oppressive.
A little bait and switch with the paywall. Ah I see Darryl isn’t only limited to congenital Jewish traits. Big bro Esau as a matter of fact was the one we needed to sew up our pockets against.
Maybe those granddads in Montana should've gone out shooting instead of wasting away in prison.
I read a lot of what the early Bolsheviks were saying, and one of the few things that give me hope in all that rubbish is when they complain about the inertia of the lumpenproletariat. Those grandpas were content to harbor opinions about certain people, but the difference between them and revolutionaries is no one seriously contends they were going to do anything about it. This is a good thing. The Freedmen realized that thought isn't illegal, but when you start acting on those thoughts, it gives the state an excuse to regulate thought. Sure this is frustrating when you have a system that needs changing, but the stability is precious. Would it be worth it to completely expose the Epstein network if the end result is America becoming a failed state a few decades from now? I say yes now, but I wonder if the people that have to live in that third world state would agree.
I can’t access any of it. It’s been 6 months since the first installment of WWII and The Peculiar Institution is not finished either. I am growing impatient. Now that the Z-Man is gone, there are very few listenable realists out there so please, can we have something?
Who is the Z man?
Hey Darryl, are scheduled to have a conversation with Nick Fuentes? Looking forward to the new content!
I don't think Cooper needs anymore controversy by grabbing that lightning rod. At least let him get out the next episode of Enemy first.
If you think NJF is a fed it means you have no idea what you're talking about and dont watch his show.
You dont have a clue what you're talking about
Good podcast. But Russell repeatedly saying "demonology" instead of "demonization" drove me nuts.
I think it was on purpose - bc. it is a religion at this point
IRRC he’s pretty knowledgeable on this and has a good revisionist take, but I haven’t heard him in years. I expect this to be a pretty in depth/high level convo on this.
What is IRRC?
He meant IIRC - if I remember correctly
Also, this was an excellent conversation, I've listened to it twice already.
Holy shit I'm retarded. I still didn't understand and googled it. I thought you were saying "If my memory serves me correctly, he meant IIRC." And I didn't want to then ask "Okay, what's IIRC?" You corrected it and told me what it meant, I'm just dense. Also, you wouldn't have had to "remember correctly" that was posted today. Jeez! Anyways, thank you.
If I recall correctly tho I wrote it wrong it’s supposed to be “IIRC”
Unrelated DC, but maybe do a series on the Open Door Policy, Boxer Rebellion, etc and who in the west pushed and profited on ‘opening up China’.
Yeah. Wtf 🥲
i'm about to start Martyr Made Substack 2024 episodes. Should I work around the Peculiar Institution and then do it in one fell swoop? Straight through? Peculiar institution first?
I just listen to whatever interests me man! It's all high quality and outside of the specific series', there isn't any linearity to them.