I’m going to go on Dan’s defense here and say that I agree with him that the Capitol riot was on a different level than the BLM riots. The BLM riots were a failure of law enforcement, egged on by politicians and the media that couldn’t seem to distinguish between historic systemic racism and lawless destruction that mostly damaged the ve…
I’m going to go on Dan’s defense here and say that I agree with him that the Capitol riot was on a different level than the BLM riots. The BLM riots were a failure of law enforcement, egged on by politicians and the media that couldn’t seem to distinguish between historic systemic racism and lawless destruction that mostly damaged the very people they *claim* to care about. Its actually pretty easy to fix and stop, too. Call out the national guard, give law enforcement the support of the politicians, and it stops in a day or two.
The Capitol riot was an attack on democracy. Yes they were a bunch of disorganized goons that should probably be pitied rather than prosecuted. And no they didn’t really damage anything. But look at the precedent they set! If you don’t like an election, now it’s ok to go to the Capitol and try to force a different result.
Next time, the riot won’t be like this one. We have opened Pandora’s box.
The logical conclusion to this, is widespread civil war. The BLM riots never had that potential.
For what it’s worth politically I’m probably more in line with Dan than Daryl, but significantly more libertarian. But I do greatly appreciate what Daryl says.
Capitol Riot and BLM riots were both encouraged and mishandled by our supposed leaders. Not cool on either front. From the perspective of leadership, both were a failure and betrayal.
I kind of agree. I think it would be silly of them to think that anything they actually did would change the election at all. Maybe some of them thought it might but probably very few. This isn't the 1300s anymore. Occupying a building doesn't mean you're the new government. If they had stayed longer it would probably have ended up like waco. But if you're going to riot and protest the government I can't think of any better place to do it. It's better than destroying your own community. It wouldnt hurt for those politicians in Washington to have just a little bit of fear of the American people.
I'm sure I'll have absolutely no one agree with me on this as I do tend to have a bit of an anarchist streak. What's that quote? "if the people fear the government, you have tyranny. If the government fears the people, you have liberty". Something like that. I think that's spot on. They're not affraid to be corrupt because they have absolutely no accountability. Ok that's all 😀
Agreed 1000%. I'm referring to the quote above. The government having consent, whether active or passive is different than the government living in fear of the people. Our government has not feared the people in my lifetime.
Any government founded on revolution fears the next one. The Bolshevists were shitting their pants about the prospect, to the point they preemptively genocides anybody with slightly rebellious tendencies.
Yeah, I agree with this. The BLM rioters weren't the problem, they did what they were allowed to get away with when no one cracked down on them. The guilty party there was the politicians reigning in the police and the media for apologizing for rioting and lying about what was happening.
I’m going to go on Dan’s defense here and say that I agree with him that the Capitol riot was on a different level than the BLM riots. The BLM riots were a failure of law enforcement, egged on by politicians and the media that couldn’t seem to distinguish between historic systemic racism and lawless destruction that mostly damaged the very people they *claim* to care about. Its actually pretty easy to fix and stop, too. Call out the national guard, give law enforcement the support of the politicians, and it stops in a day or two.
The Capitol riot was an attack on democracy. Yes they were a bunch of disorganized goons that should probably be pitied rather than prosecuted. And no they didn’t really damage anything. But look at the precedent they set! If you don’t like an election, now it’s ok to go to the Capitol and try to force a different result.
Next time, the riot won’t be like this one. We have opened Pandora’s box.
The logical conclusion to this, is widespread civil war. The BLM riots never had that potential.
For what it’s worth politically I’m probably more in line with Dan than Daryl, but significantly more libertarian. But I do greatly appreciate what Daryl says.
Capitol Riot and BLM riots were both encouraged and mishandled by our supposed leaders. Not cool on either front. From the perspective of leadership, both were a failure and betrayal.
I kind of agree. I think it would be silly of them to think that anything they actually did would change the election at all. Maybe some of them thought it might but probably very few. This isn't the 1300s anymore. Occupying a building doesn't mean you're the new government. If they had stayed longer it would probably have ended up like waco. But if you're going to riot and protest the government I can't think of any better place to do it. It's better than destroying your own community. It wouldnt hurt for those politicians in Washington to have just a little bit of fear of the American people.
I'm sure I'll have absolutely no one agree with me on this as I do tend to have a bit of an anarchist streak. What's that quote? "if the people fear the government, you have tyranny. If the government fears the people, you have liberty". Something like that. I think that's spot on. They're not affraid to be corrupt because they have absolutely no accountability. Ok that's all 😀
Name one government that has existed in fear of the people it governs...
Name one that didn't.
Ultimately, every government exists only by the consent of the governed. No consent, no government.
The question is just to what degree.
Agreed 1000%. I'm referring to the quote above. The government having consent, whether active or passive is different than the government living in fear of the people. Our government has not feared the people in my lifetime.
Any government founded on revolution fears the next one. The Bolshevists were shitting their pants about the prospect, to the point they preemptively genocides anybody with slightly rebellious tendencies.
My god you're still parroting that garbage?
"Attack on democracy"?
Both riots happened to influence the outcome of the election. Both had the same objective.
Please cut the crap on pretending like there was a difference
Not at all correct or fair to claim equivalency between the two. Of course there’s a huge difference
Absolutely correct and fair.
There is no fundamental difference whatsoever. Both riots had the same objective, to influence political directions.
The only superficial difference, is that one set of riots and violence was on behalf of the democrat party, and one was opposed.
That's the only reason it's framed differently and the only reason you claim it's not fair to compare them
Yeah, I agree with this. The BLM rioters weren't the problem, they did what they were allowed to get away with when no one cracked down on them. The guilty party there was the politicians reigning in the police and the media for apologizing for rioting and lying about what was happening.