Dear Darryl, Thank you for your podcast on this topic. Although , as with most human interaction, we may not agree on every detail and nuance of an issue, there are a huge number of things which I genuinely appreciate about your presentation in general and your specific comments on this particular episode. My first degree was in history. I learned from wonderful teachers the art of historiography. Many of my courses focused on the histories of central and eastern Europe. In the spirit of balanced historiography you have offered up a valuable context which allows the listener/reader to have a vantage point from the top of the fence, rather than being ensconced on one side or the other of this issue. I have never valued commentaries or opinions which pander to the views I already have and leave me in a comfortable place. Your take on things challenge me in some areas, have me nodding a strong yes in others, and leave my sensibilities feeling uncomfortable in either further areas. That to me is the mark of a strong presentation. For your study, your analysis, your empathy and your hard work, I offer my gratitude.
Just finished V1 earlier today. Agree the audio quality was on the rough side but still was solid. Really appreciate the effort to put out a quality product in these tumultuous times!
I love your podcasts that's the main reason I immediately became a Substack subscriber but this one was very disappointing. I understand from Geopolitical perspective you can find many excuses for this invasion but having family over there(I am Ukrainian/Russian) I can tell you the bombings of civilian (mostly Russian speaking) cities have been horrific. Whatever mental gymnastics supporters of this invasion have to do the bottom line is Ukrainians have never been more united in resisting this invasion than now. If in 2014 the invasion of Crimea was a surprise to them, this one wasn't. There are line ups to join the military. This will be a costly war for both sides but I can't see how Russia will come out of this a winner. Keep up the good work, looking forward to hearing more on the topic, but please talk about it from both sides.
It wasn’t intended to justify the invasion, brother. The podcast is aimed at Americans in the hope that they’ll consider how our decisions helped worsen the situation.
I have just re-listened to the remastered version in a less emotional state(I'm sure you understand) and I can clearly see what you were trying to explain with more context. Apologies if I came across critical of your podcast. It was not my intention as I said I never miss yours and Jockos podcast. Best of luck.
I have not listened to the second take, and I completely understand your sensitivity to the situation. But after listening to the first one I did not in the least bit come away thinking Darryl was excusing the horrors and blatant war crimes Russia is committing currently. Merely taking a broad historical take as to how we got here. He opened with how bad Germany was doing post WW1 leading directly to the conflict of WW2. I highly doubt Darryl would say that because Germany got screwed by the west post WW1 they were justified in what came after up to and including the holocaust.
Your families situation does not detract from the OBJECTIVE events that provided fuel for this conflict. And the fact that you equate the examination of those events to "supporting Russia" shows either a lack of IQ or you being disingenuous.
Come on,.. Please just don't pull the trigger to hurt. I can understand the part of his comment being emotional. What is your motivation for this outburst?
I don't mean it to confront you but it would be nice to know where you are comming from and what made you react. Are you also living or have family in Ukraine?
I empathize with Eugene, but Rivi's response isn't unexpected to me. A good portion of the American population is a bit bitter and resentful to emotional appeals and being demonized for their thoughts post-COVID and Trump.
A lot of Americans, especially socially conservative ones are going through a rough heroic BSOD wondering if "we're the baddies." On one side you see "the West" and all the hedonistic fruit that comes with it, and to the East you see a corrupted siren of power trying to swing free of the manipulative mother in laws of geopolitics. All you know is one side didn't force you to take a experimental vaccine, lock you indoors, and call you every horrible thing under the sun for loving your country's history. Now they're screaming at you to defend with your life or family's life their interests. It's quite a whiplash. If you think I'm joking about this, look into the RadTrad Catholic and Othrobro/hyperdox communities.
If Ukraine is able to kick Putin out, the next thing they should do is kick out the communities that are ok with using them as a giant chess piece at the expense of their people.
This perfectly encapsulates how I and most people I know feel. I don't really trust the RadTrads enough to want them in power, but if a binary decision is going to be forced on me, I know who I'll hold my nose and side with. It's like picking the Whites in the Russian civil war.
Insulting me with your troll comment and calling me disingenuous because my family and friends are currently being bombed in Eastern Ukraine won't get you anywhere, but best of luck to you.
One of the things I like best about this podcast is that Darryl neither stoops to personal attacks nor assumes the worst motives. It’s effective because one listens to his arguments even while disagreeing with them.
I very much appreciate this content, I just wish I knew what to do with it. I have always been a firm believer that knowledge is power and have pursued knowledge in many forms across a variety of subjects. I thought being a well educated citizen was one of the best ways to be a good citizen. But Covid taught me that knowledge may be powerful but it’s less powerful than narrative and that the most effective narrative is fear. So there is a part of me that wants to understand the nuances of the conflict, that wants to understand the historical actors and actions that have brought us here. I want all the information I can get so I can try and discern what “facts” coming out of the war zone might have some semblance of reality and what is pure propaganda. But there is a growing sense of dread that doing so is pointless. My elected officials don’t care what I think. Our options in the ballot box are often a choice between bad and worse. Most of the people in my inner circle either cling desperately to the narrative or just can’t be bothered to care one way or another. I feel bipolar, desperate and obsessively looking for more information but consumed by the feeling that none of it matters anyway.
Very, very interesting. Russia's government is wholly responsible for a lot of needless death and suffering, but western interventionist policy certainly seems to have greased the rails. It's kind of like the people who bully those who end up becoming school shooters. Just because you didn't pull the trigger doesn't mean you should sleep particularly well. Thanks for connecting some dots for me.
Hello Darryl Cooper. i have listen You for a while and i think You have objktiveti in Your arguments, thats why im responding to You and trying to explaine something abaute the situation in ukraine, in a werry different angle.
Im a half Russian ( the better half ) and living near Russia, i have lived in Russia and i know Russians, i know ukrianians too and have lot of friends who lived in Donbass or theire realtives still living there. After 2014 coup in Kiev the country is like a mad experiment from the west, what we can do to people and get away witht this.
Good that You covering this case and to better understanding....its like two brothers get the inheritance ( soviet union died and Russia and ukraine get their new territories ). Ukriane got lot more than they had when they united with soviet union. And the one brother ( ukraine ) soon will be found by the bad guys and oportunist ( Us and allies ) who yust want to get something of the inheritance. They drink him and give him a drugs, he wastes hes part of the inheritance and at the same time they telling him that the other brother is a bad and we got to get him to give his cut of inheritance away too.
At the end, the bigger brother ( Russia ) yust get werry angry abaout this situation and get the younger brother, beat him up, silbering him up and get wride of his bad friends and influence, starting from a new page and keeping family together. But those bad friends are on the enemy list now...
DC—all the talk about Saakashvili being a USG pawn (no doubt), but has anyone ever taken a look at someone else in his orbit, both in Tbilisi and Odessa: Christina Pushaw, Ron Desantis’s press secretary and attack dog. She’s great at owning the libs (when she’s not congratulating Dave Rubin), but how did she go from Misha to a possible US president hopeful? As an RDS fan, it’s concerning. I don’t believe in coincidences like that either…
She doesn't hide that she was in Georgia in from 2013-2015 and has been in involved in political/civil society stuff there since, and she has publicly tweeted Saakashvili was "her former boss". We all know how corrupt he was in Georgia, and she even followed him to his sham governorship in Odessa.
It's like she parachuted in out of nowhere to instant fame on the own-the-libs right without anyone asking where the hell she came from.
How does someone with her background end up as press secretary for a presidential hopeful in 2021? This doesn't smell exactly like a traditional intel operation, but it stinks to high heaven...do we really want someone like that as a potential press secretary or other advisory position in a DeSantis administration?
Hi Darryl, just finished “thoughts on Ukraine (remast)” - I am an American, and I have to say thank you for taking the time to put this together. I understand other listeners, especially from European countries may have completely different perspectives here, and of course that is okay, but I appreciate your view and hope it can permeate into our national culture. Laying aside what our corporations and our politicians have done, we the people, could be so much better than this, and I’m sure I am as guilty here as the next guy, but I would love to see that day, when as a nation we decide to stop falling for their distracting bullshit, and realize that we the people have created this problem, and only we the people can solve it.
One thing you cover in this "series" that I absolutely cannot wrap my mind around, is why the Russians would put Americans in charge of reshaping their economy after the Cold War. For decades we fought, argued, undermined, and plotted to annihilate one another. Then when the dust settles they decided to employ professionals strait from the feeder of the American Deep State to remake the country? This was long before I was born, but it seems a little naïve, no?
Loved the episode, really opened my eyes to the Russian perspective.
My understaning was that this podcast was exactly that. Russian perspective and ignorance or deliberate provocation from NATO regarding that. It was not supposed to be a totally comprehensive take on everything but the point of view almost completely missing fromt the current western discourse.
1) Are there any differences between the script of the original and the remaster?
2) Does anybody know of any in-depth critique of the podcast?
The comments I have found on the subbredit were not very numerous or substantial.
Bro, you’ve helped me write yet another A+ essay on Russia U.S relations post Cold War relations. You give me hope that prehaps something out of america can be salvaged.
I loved the first episode. It was real and raw. Very interesting and entertaining. Personally, I would have preferred a second follow-up episode rather than a re-make of the first.
Dear Darryl, Thank you for your podcast on this topic. Although , as with most human interaction, we may not agree on every detail and nuance of an issue, there are a huge number of things which I genuinely appreciate about your presentation in general and your specific comments on this particular episode. My first degree was in history. I learned from wonderful teachers the art of historiography. Many of my courses focused on the histories of central and eastern Europe. In the spirit of balanced historiography you have offered up a valuable context which allows the listener/reader to have a vantage point from the top of the fence, rather than being ensconced on one side or the other of this issue. I have never valued commentaries or opinions which pander to the views I already have and leave me in a comfortable place. Your take on things challenge me in some areas, have me nodding a strong yes in others, and leave my sensibilities feeling uncomfortable in either further areas. That to me is the mark of a strong presentation. For your study, your analysis, your empathy and your hard work, I offer my gratitude.
Just finished V1 earlier today. Agree the audio quality was on the rough side but still was solid. Really appreciate the effort to put out a quality product in these tumultuous times!
I love your podcasts that's the main reason I immediately became a Substack subscriber but this one was very disappointing. I understand from Geopolitical perspective you can find many excuses for this invasion but having family over there(I am Ukrainian/Russian) I can tell you the bombings of civilian (mostly Russian speaking) cities have been horrific. Whatever mental gymnastics supporters of this invasion have to do the bottom line is Ukrainians have never been more united in resisting this invasion than now. If in 2014 the invasion of Crimea was a surprise to them, this one wasn't. There are line ups to join the military. This will be a costly war for both sides but I can't see how Russia will come out of this a winner. Keep up the good work, looking forward to hearing more on the topic, but please talk about it from both sides.
It wasn’t intended to justify the invasion, brother. The podcast is aimed at Americans in the hope that they’ll consider how our decisions helped worsen the situation.
I have just re-listened to the remastered version in a less emotional state(I'm sure you understand) and I can clearly see what you were trying to explain with more context. Apologies if I came across critical of your podcast. It was not my intention as I said I never miss yours and Jockos podcast. Best of luck.
It’s all love <3
I have not listened to the second take, and I completely understand your sensitivity to the situation. But after listening to the first one I did not in the least bit come away thinking Darryl was excusing the horrors and blatant war crimes Russia is committing currently. Merely taking a broad historical take as to how we got here. He opened with how bad Germany was doing post WW1 leading directly to the conflict of WW2. I highly doubt Darryl would say that because Germany got screwed by the west post WW1 they were justified in what came after up to and including the holocaust.
Your families situation does not detract from the OBJECTIVE events that provided fuel for this conflict. And the fact that you equate the examination of those events to "supporting Russia" shows either a lack of IQ or you being disingenuous.
Come on,.. Please just don't pull the trigger to hurt. I can understand the part of his comment being emotional. What is your motivation for this outburst?
I don't mean it to confront you but it would be nice to know where you are comming from and what made you react. Are you also living or have family in Ukraine?
/jonas
I empathize with Eugene, but Rivi's response isn't unexpected to me. A good portion of the American population is a bit bitter and resentful to emotional appeals and being demonized for their thoughts post-COVID and Trump.
A lot of Americans, especially socially conservative ones are going through a rough heroic BSOD wondering if "we're the baddies." On one side you see "the West" and all the hedonistic fruit that comes with it, and to the East you see a corrupted siren of power trying to swing free of the manipulative mother in laws of geopolitics. All you know is one side didn't force you to take a experimental vaccine, lock you indoors, and call you every horrible thing under the sun for loving your country's history. Now they're screaming at you to defend with your life or family's life their interests. It's quite a whiplash. If you think I'm joking about this, look into the RadTrad Catholic and Othrobro/hyperdox communities.
If Ukraine is able to kick Putin out, the next thing they should do is kick out the communities that are ok with using them as a giant chess piece at the expense of their people.
This perfectly encapsulates how I and most people I know feel. I don't really trust the RadTrads enough to want them in power, but if a binary decision is going to be forced on me, I know who I'll hold my nose and side with. It's like picking the Whites in the Russian civil war.
Insulting me with your troll comment and calling me disingenuous because my family and friends are currently being bombed in Eastern Ukraine won't get you anywhere, but best of luck to you.
One of the things I like best about this podcast is that Darryl neither stoops to personal attacks nor assumes the worst motives. It’s effective because one listens to his arguments even while disagreeing with them.
I very much appreciate this content, I just wish I knew what to do with it. I have always been a firm believer that knowledge is power and have pursued knowledge in many forms across a variety of subjects. I thought being a well educated citizen was one of the best ways to be a good citizen. But Covid taught me that knowledge may be powerful but it’s less powerful than narrative and that the most effective narrative is fear. So there is a part of me that wants to understand the nuances of the conflict, that wants to understand the historical actors and actions that have brought us here. I want all the information I can get so I can try and discern what “facts” coming out of the war zone might have some semblance of reality and what is pure propaganda. But there is a growing sense of dread that doing so is pointless. My elected officials don’t care what I think. Our options in the ballot box are often a choice between bad and worse. Most of the people in my inner circle either cling desperately to the narrative or just can’t be bothered to care one way or another. I feel bipolar, desperate and obsessively looking for more information but consumed by the feeling that none of it matters anyway.
When surrounded by lies, personal truth must suffice.
Very, very interesting. Russia's government is wholly responsible for a lot of needless death and suffering, but western interventionist policy certainly seems to have greased the rails. It's kind of like the people who bully those who end up becoming school shooters. Just because you didn't pull the trigger doesn't mean you should sleep particularly well. Thanks for connecting some dots for me.
Hello Darryl Cooper. i have listen You for a while and i think You have objktiveti in Your arguments, thats why im responding to You and trying to explaine something abaute the situation in ukraine, in a werry different angle.
Im a half Russian ( the better half ) and living near Russia, i have lived in Russia and i know Russians, i know ukrianians too and have lot of friends who lived in Donbass or theire realtives still living there. After 2014 coup in Kiev the country is like a mad experiment from the west, what we can do to people and get away witht this.
Good that You covering this case and to better understanding....its like two brothers get the inheritance ( soviet union died and Russia and ukraine get their new territories ). Ukriane got lot more than they had when they united with soviet union. And the one brother ( ukraine ) soon will be found by the bad guys and oportunist ( Us and allies ) who yust want to get something of the inheritance. They drink him and give him a drugs, he wastes hes part of the inheritance and at the same time they telling him that the other brother is a bad and we got to get him to give his cut of inheritance away too.
At the end, the bigger brother ( Russia ) yust get werry angry abaout this situation and get the younger brother, beat him up, silbering him up and get wride of his bad friends and influence, starting from a new page and keeping family together. But those bad friends are on the enemy list now...
Excellent post with a very unique perspective martin. Thank you for the comment
I said this on Twitter already but I think this was my favorite episode yet. Really fascinating stuff. Thanks Darryl!
DC—all the talk about Saakashvili being a USG pawn (no doubt), but has anyone ever taken a look at someone else in his orbit, both in Tbilisi and Odessa: Christina Pushaw, Ron Desantis’s press secretary and attack dog. She’s great at owning the libs (when she’s not congratulating Dave Rubin), but how did she go from Misha to a possible US president hopeful? As an RDS fan, it’s concerning. I don’t believe in coincidences like that either…
Interesting, tell me more?
She doesn't hide that she was in Georgia in from 2013-2015 and has been in involved in political/civil society stuff there since, and she has publicly tweeted Saakashvili was "her former boss". We all know how corrupt he was in Georgia, and she even followed him to his sham governorship in Odessa.
It's like she parachuted in out of nowhere to instant fame on the own-the-libs right without anyone asking where the hell she came from.
How does someone with her background end up as press secretary for a presidential hopeful in 2021? This doesn't smell exactly like a traditional intel operation, but it stinks to high heaven...do we really want someone like that as a potential press secretary or other advisory position in a DeSantis administration?
https://twitter.com/ChristinaPushaw/status/1496695054148251651
https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2021/07/27/press-secretary-christina-pushaw-sought-job-after-admiring-desantiss-handling-of-pandemic/
https://www.forumfreerussia.org/en/biographies/pushaw
https://warsawsecurityforum.org/speaker/christina-pushaw/
So this is the beginning of DeSantis being co-opted by swamp monsters. Wonderful.
Hi Darryl, just finished “thoughts on Ukraine (remast)” - I am an American, and I have to say thank you for taking the time to put this together. I understand other listeners, especially from European countries may have completely different perspectives here, and of course that is okay, but I appreciate your view and hope it can permeate into our national culture. Laying aside what our corporations and our politicians have done, we the people, could be so much better than this, and I’m sure I am as guilty here as the next guy, but I would love to see that day, when as a nation we decide to stop falling for their distracting bullshit, and realize that we the people have created this problem, and only we the people can solve it.
One thing you cover in this "series" that I absolutely cannot wrap my mind around, is why the Russians would put Americans in charge of reshaping their economy after the Cold War. For decades we fought, argued, undermined, and plotted to annihilate one another. Then when the dust settles they decided to employ professionals strait from the feeder of the American Deep State to remake the country? This was long before I was born, but it seems a little naïve, no?
Americans were in charge of rebuilding the German and Japanese economies after WWII and that worked out very well for them.
Does this differ from the original in any meaningful way?
30 minutes of amplifying info mixed in, but otherwise the same
thanks, I'll give it a listen.
thank you for re-recording this, that was likely not a fun task
Imagine if the United States made the same mistake with Japan. Thank you Darryl for addressing many gaps in my knowledge in historical context.
Loved the episode, really opened my eyes to the Russian perspective.
My understaning was that this podcast was exactly that. Russian perspective and ignorance or deliberate provocation from NATO regarding that. It was not supposed to be a totally comprehensive take on everything but the point of view almost completely missing fromt the current western discourse.
1) Are there any differences between the script of the original and the remaster?
2) Does anybody know of any in-depth critique of the podcast?
The comments I have found on the subbredit were not very numerous or substantial.
Bro, you’ve helped me write yet another A+ essay on Russia U.S relations post Cold War relations. You give me hope that prehaps something out of america can be salvaged.
I loved the first episode. It was real and raw. Very interesting and entertaining. Personally, I would have preferred a second follow-up episode rather than a re-make of the first.