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Zev Watts's avatar

4:03 Sabra Shatila is an area that I need to understand better. My understanding is that the massacre is used by Israel Zionist Jew haters to bang over our head. I want to study more sides of this massacre.

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Darryl Cooper's avatar

It is used that way, but this one happens to be true. America haters use slavery against us, but slavery still happened, ya know? There are lots of Israeli sources, including others who were in government w/Sharon, who call him a straight up terrorist and war criminal, esp because of how he essentially went rogue at IDF North and was running ops behind the back of Begin’s government.

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Zev Watts's avatar

I’m defensive and on edge right now: Kids Jewish school evacuated bomb threats, Kosher pizza restaurant block away vandalized, non Jewish kids shooting firearms in the air next to JCC. Yes happening in Texas. There is no way I’m letting my kids attend any pro Israel rallies local or in DC. Hope that gives context.

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Zev Watts's avatar

I feel less safe due to physical attacks on Jewish businesses, schools, institutions, buildings and people. Your comment is way off point from what I said .

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Laggy's avatar

IDF, under Sharon’s control violated a ceasefire in Lebanon in 1982. Then IDF surrounded Palestinian camp, blocking routes of escape, while Lebanese forces went medieval. IDF officially reported atrocities as they were happening and did nothing to stop it. Sharon was forced to resign as defense minister over all of it. It was bad. PM Begin was not trying to do shit this way. And he’s former Betar. Dude was a savage freedom fighter as a youngster. Yet even he wanted to sue for peace.

There have been some great Israeli leaders. There have been absolute psychos. Sharon is one of the psychos. There’s really no argument against it left anymore.

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