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משכיל בינה's avatar

If Trump got 56% everyone would say this was a massive victory. What is the pertinence of saying Hamas do not speak for everyone (something that is probably true of any regime anywhere, ever)?

Note that there was an alternative:

"Also known as the National Coalition for Justice and Democracy, the Wa'ad list was headed by Gazan Eyad El-Sarraj, who was a consultant to the Palestinian delegation to the Camp David 2000 Summit and heads a group of Palestinian and Israeli academics working towards a peace agreement.[17] The list's main platform is security reforms, establishing the rule of law and respect for human rights."

Guess how many seats they got? (It rhymes with 'hero').

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You're right, people might say that, but is it true? No, 56% is not a massive victory. 56% is almost literally if you and 9 and of your friends voted and 6 of you wanted something and 4 of you didn't (I say almost because the situation I describe is actually a larger margin of victory than 56% but I digress). Is that massive? Hardly. Just like you probably don't want someone throwing you in an identity or ideological group that you aren't part of or don't like so those 44% probably don't either. Maybe they should be speaking up louder maybe a lot of things, but also maybe they are scared and persecuted and don't want to be killed in the crossfire...the at least 5% of Palestinian Christians that make up the Gazan population I'd be willing to bet don't.

The pertinence is to remind people that Hamas is not everyone and so to simply speak in terms that removes the humanity of the innocent people on the other side simply because they live mixed within that side is a dangerous path to head down so that we do not slowly turn into the evil we are seeking to be rid of.

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משכיל בינה's avatar

To be clear, in response to whatever you are assuming, my belief is that civilians should never be targeted in war, even if they are provably Nazi paedophile space aliens. The purpose of the rules of law are to limit and contain conflict, not to administrate abstract justice.

Now, as regards the public opinion of people in Gaza. First, what you probably haven't even considered is that some people who did not vote for Hamas are just as or *more* extreme. The PFLP, which quite recently entered a synagogue in West Jerusalem and massacred the people there, gouging out their eyes, also did quite well. Further, many Fatah supporters are also rejectionists, but they don't support Hamas because they are not into strict Islam. Again, Gaza has a peace party. It got no seats, because peace is not a popular policy in Gaza; war is.

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