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Erek Tinker's avatar

That's false. History does not indicate your position at all

It's because you say things that the facts dispute that I think you're just in it for the racism.

Stop lying.

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Benjamin's avatar

That's not false at all. The current Israeli leadership themselves once supported Hamas and it's formal Israeli policy often referred to as "mowing the lawn" to routinely commit state sanctioned mass murder against the Palestinian people

You stop lying and pretending like Israel is the victim here, when it's actually the homicidal aggressors

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Erek Tinker's avatar

More than 90% of the Mandate of Palestine was given to the Arabs during the partition.

The Palestinians and Arabs have started every war/Intifada.

Israel gives Palestinians medical care. They withdrew from Gaza in 2005.

If you lie again I won't respond. You just want the Jews to have no place at all. That's very clear. There is no principle in your position other than hatred of Jews.

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Benjamin's avatar

The arabs had no say in the partition and certainly no say when Israel confiscated the homes and property at gunpoint of some 700k Palestinians who temporarily fled a warzone in what can only be considered state sponsored ethnic cleansing

And Israel did not тАЬwithdraw from Gaza in 2005тАЭ

Israel withdrew it's open military occupation, built a wall around Gaza, like a prison, guarded by machine gun towers and snipers and laid siege to the people inside

You're a disingenuous liar pretending like it's not a valid question to ask how a population robbed of their property and livelihoods then herded into refugee camps and tormented for generations can reasonably be considered тАЬthe aggressors starting the warsтАЭ when they lash out at the ones who put them there and robbed them

Your pathetic and dishonest accusations of antisemitism directed at me are merely tired and worn out techniques used to hide your cowardice and unwillingness to address the facts as they stand and Israels true motivations and goals driving it's murderous and brutal actions

Run way if you can't handle the Truth and let this exchange stay here for other's to see

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Erek Tinker's avatar

More lies huh? Those Palestinians left their homes to facilitate the extermination of the Jews.

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Benjamin's avatar

They were peasant people temporarily fleeing a war zone at the request of the combatants, including Israel

The lie is pretending that land was conquered by Israel from an opposition military force, when it truth it was stolen at gunpoint from Arabic women, children and old peasant people fleeing a war zone

Why do you keep lying?

https://theconversation.com/the-nakba-how-the-palestinians-were-expelled-from-israel-205151

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Erek Tinker's avatar

Most nations in Earth were founded in the 20th century and most of them involved resettlements.

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Benjamin's avatar

What in the 20th century involved ethnic cleansing and is considered good today except Israel?

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Erek Tinker's avatar

It's not about Good or Evil in that sense. That's childish IMV.

Now it's about stable nations. The Jews are the only people almost wiped from the Earth and the Arabs were a big part of that, and the Palestinians have made extermination of the Jews their whole identity. Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran are very open about that.

Bad things happen in war. The losing side loses their homes sometimes. But the Jews live there now. So anti Zionism is just the final solution still carrying on.

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Benjamin's avatar

Now you're trying to argue that two wrongs make a right?

That's some fucked up mental gymnastics there bud

You say that because Jews suffered at the hands of others, then that justifies the cruelty and suffering Israel is inflicting on others

Utterly ridiculous and indeed an evil sadist notion on its face

Furthermore, your presuming the justification of the robbery , torture and murder of the Palestinians is acceptable now, because they've come to hate for it, is simply sub human in nature and utterly evil in itself.

It's like torturing and beating someone who did nothing to you, then justifying yourself for torturing them even more because they now hate you for what you did to them.

You say there's no good and evil, but you've shown yourself to be a depraved maniac and a sociopathic lunatic when it comes to the Palestinian people.

It's not okay to victimize people because you've been victimized. It's not okay to justify murdering innocent people because they hate you for what you've done to them

It's evil

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Erek Tinker's avatar

You really are just a genocidal piece of shit aren't.

It's fine, I should have stuck with my original plan. Don't argue with the man who doesn't think the Jews deserve to exist on this Earth.

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Erek Tinker's avatar

Ok. And the ones who stayed became Israeli citizens. And the ones who left have initiated pogrom (Intifada) after pogrom.

Yes, they lost, yes it's tragic for them, yes they are sympathetic.

It's the inability to believe Jews deserve to live anywhere in the world that tells the story of the antisemitism.

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Benjamin's avatar

Your continually howling about antisemitism isn't distracting anybody from your lack of substance and disregard for truth here

You say some "stayed" or "left" and that's just disingenuous lies

The Palestinians didn't "leave to start pograms" against Israel from afar as free people seeking revenge

They were herded into refugee camps at gunpoint , then guarded by machine gun towers and snipers for generations and their descendants are still there. Like Hamas and the Palestinians

They're not fighting you because your Jewish or they're just a bunch of anti Semites

They're fighting Israel because Israel stole from them at gunpoint , keeps them locked up in refugee camps and is occupying their homes and property

Stop your lies and deception. It's not fooling anyone here

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