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Benjamin's avatar

That's a copout when you label anybody that disagrees with the violence and oppression of the system of Israel as an "anti Semite"

Fact is, you hide from the truth and the questions surrounding the state of Israel and it's murderous campaign to steal from the Palestinians by proclaiming anybody who objects an "anti Semite"

This is no more cloaking your own cowardice in presumed principles that both fall short of answering for the reality and admitting the truth

Congratulations , you've shown yourself as a coward and a hypocrite without actually just saying it

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Erek Tinker's avatar

If it weren't a lie, you might have a point.

The Palestinians are unwilling to accept that Israel exists.

The genocide lie has been proven to be nonsense at this point.

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Benjamin's avatar

Israel is unwilling to accept the Palestinians exist and has done just as much, if not more to thwart any sort of two state solutions, up to and including endorsement of Hamas

Nonsense, at this point is pretending like Israel has any intentions of peace or sharing and seeks nothing except the expulsion and murder of the Palestinian people

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Erek Tinker's avatar

That's false. History does not indicate your position at all

It's because you say things that the facts dispute that I think you're just in it for the racism.

Stop lying.

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Benjamin's avatar

That's not false at all. The current Israeli leadership themselves once supported Hamas and it's formal Israeli policy often referred to as "mowing the lawn" to routinely commit state sanctioned mass murder against the Palestinian people

You stop lying and pretending like Israel is the victim here, when it's actually the homicidal aggressors

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Erek Tinker's avatar

More than 90% of the Mandate of Palestine was given to the Arabs during the partition.

The Palestinians and Arabs have started every war/Intifada.

Israel gives Palestinians medical care. They withdrew from Gaza in 2005.

If you lie again I won't respond. You just want the Jews to have no place at all. That's very clear. There is no principle in your position other than hatred of Jews.

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Benjamin's avatar

The arabs had no say in the partition and certainly no say when Israel confiscated the homes and property at gunpoint of some 700k Palestinians who temporarily fled a warzone in what can only be considered state sponsored ethnic cleansing

And Israel did not “withdraw from Gaza in 2005”

Israel withdrew it's open military occupation, built a wall around Gaza, like a prison, guarded by machine gun towers and snipers and laid siege to the people inside

You're a disingenuous liar pretending like it's not a valid question to ask how a population robbed of their property and livelihoods then herded into refugee camps and tormented for generations can reasonably be considered “the aggressors starting the wars” when they lash out at the ones who put them there and robbed them

Your pathetic and dishonest accusations of antisemitism directed at me are merely tired and worn out techniques used to hide your cowardice and unwillingness to address the facts as they stand and Israels true motivations and goals driving it's murderous and brutal actions

Run way if you can't handle the Truth and let this exchange stay here for other's to see

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Erek Tinker's avatar

More lies huh? Those Palestinians left their homes to facilitate the extermination of the Jews.

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Benjamin's avatar

They were peasant people temporarily fleeing a war zone at the request of the combatants, including Israel

The lie is pretending that land was conquered by Israel from an opposition military force, when it truth it was stolen at gunpoint from Arabic women, children and old peasant people fleeing a war zone

Why do you keep lying?

https://theconversation.com/the-nakba-how-the-palestinians-were-expelled-from-israel-205151

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Erek Tinker's avatar

Most nations in Earth were founded in the 20th century and most of them involved resettlements.

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Benjamin's avatar

What in the 20th century involved ethnic cleansing and is considered good today except Israel?

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Erek Tinker's avatar

Ok. And the ones who stayed became Israeli citizens. And the ones who left have initiated pogrom (Intifada) after pogrom.

Yes, they lost, yes it's tragic for them, yes they are sympathetic.

It's the inability to believe Jews deserve to live anywhere in the world that tells the story of the antisemitism.

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Benjamin's avatar

Your continually howling about antisemitism isn't distracting anybody from your lack of substance and disregard for truth here

You say some "stayed" or "left" and that's just disingenuous lies

The Palestinians didn't "leave to start pograms" against Israel from afar as free people seeking revenge

They were herded into refugee camps at gunpoint , then guarded by machine gun towers and snipers for generations and their descendants are still there. Like Hamas and the Palestinians

They're not fighting you because your Jewish or they're just a bunch of anti Semites

They're fighting Israel because Israel stole from them at gunpoint , keeps them locked up in refugee camps and is occupying their homes and property

Stop your lies and deception. It's not fooling anyone here

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